Monday, August 17, 2009

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However, NP Editor states that:
Fact: Honour killings are legal in Muslim nations ergo it is part of their culture as well as in line with the teachings of the Koran. Fact: Using violence to enforce Islams perverted sense of  modesty is normal in Muslim countries read this breaking story: www.theglobeandmail.com/.../article1234736 Is that state sponsored violence against women or is it just "Violence".

Meanwhile, NP Editor came up with this idea:
Tossed call them what they are cowards, filthy backward supremacist cowards who are devoid of honour. If they feel so dishonoured why don't they wack themselves and save us the legal fees?

NP Editor remembers that:
by Anonymous66 Jul 29 2009 10:30 AM Michael Pilgrim - I think Sunnyflower is right.  While our culture certainly has its share of low-life loser men who hurt their wives and girlfriends, it's pretty hard to argue that we're not doing better a better job at publicly despising them. Although I worry that this may backslide in the coming years, considering how many teeny-bopper fans were defending that rapper Chris Brown for beating up his girlfriend.

In other words, NP Editor puts it this way:
by AKTor Jul 29 2009 12:31 PM "This is a cultural practice imported to Canada. What value is there in denying it?"

NP Editor tells the real story:
by L.Emenopee Jul 29 2009 3:22 PM The Montreal Massacre was also an 'honour killing'.   Marc Lepine's real name was Gamil Rodrigue Gharbi.  The son of an abusive Algerian migrant, his deadly attack on women students in 1989 mirrored his father's belief in putting women in their place through coercive force, a remnant of his North African - Middle Eastern cultural heritage.

Neo Conservative is absolutely sure that:
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PhantomObserver thinks that the problem is:
I wonder how many of us bothered to look at the Hickman Commission report on Marshall s prosecution (you can find it here on the Nova Scotia government website, by the way). You may find it somewhat refreshing for a government report, in that it s not afraid to name names and assign blame. You might also be interested in seeing some of its recommendations; they relate in part to the sort of discrimination that human rights commissions are supposed to deal with, before they got infected by the political correctness bug.

Having that in mind, Neo Conservative wonders:
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Neo Conservative might have an idea about it:
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Karla Homolka From: NP Editor Neo Conservative Lucas /26735806

Similarly, NP Editor adds:
and then, *By the same token, a Muslim male who kills his partner or dependent should also be viewed as deviant and non-representative of the "typical" Muslim male, as someone motivated by a flawed and twisted understanding of an existing cultural norm (e.g., what it means to be "Muslim").  General Muslim culture should not be implicated, only a certain aberrant interpretation of it.*

NP Editor thinks that the problem is:
*I am surprised you are using the term "femicide" since until recently I have only heard feminists use that word. It's a good word if you subscribe to a feminist anti-patriarchal analysis of these issues. I prefer the more gen eric "homicide" to describe any kind of murder.*

Still being unsure, NP Editor asks:
by Tossed Salad Jul 29 2009 9:41 AM IPV. No this cannot be. Males are the only species that initiate violence. A woman would never hit a man. Not possible we are all angels and oh so physically weak almost bed ridden really. It is the fault of the patriarchy. Us poor wimmin folk are been coerced. It is a conspiracy. They need to come up with a new name.

NP Editor imagines that:
Again, attaching this issue to a particular cultural group seems to say more about the posters' biases than it does about the actual crime.

As a result of that, NP Editor belives:
One can choose to analyze real or perceived underlying issues of race, gender, religion, c ulture or psychology of murderers and their victims in order to make some point in regard to race, gender, religion, culture or psychology. Or one can simply condemn murder.

Neo Conservative can't forget that:
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Neo Conservative comes with the facts:
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Neo Conservative thinks that the problem is:
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While it may be true, Lucas thinks:
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NP Editor imagines that:
by arbyburns Jul 29 2009 2:43 PM *Kat and Nicki, Arby and Mike none are so blind than those who build walls in their grey matter to justify the unjust.* Sorry Sassy, I thought I was arguing for your point of view... I don't get why your stating that I'm justifying the unjust.  Could you explain?

NP Editor does not seem to agree with this. In his own words:
Even then some Islamists will still say that “honor killing” has nothing to do with Islam; just the way they say “Islamic terrorism” has nothing to do with the so called peaceful Islam. Their hypocritical denial is utter nonsense and stupendously deceptive.

For this reason, NP Editor says:
For greater cl arity around domestic violence in Canada, we should use the term Inter Partner Violence (IPV), now favoured by many academics in this field. Normative IPV is violence that springs from psychologically troubled people â€" both men and women â€" who have problems dealing with intimate relationships, but have no healthy model for resolving them. Many of them have come from abusive backgrounds. Much of IPV involves alcohol, drugs or both, not the case with honour killing. IPV is usually situational and therefore spontaneous, rarely planned in advance like honour killing. Unlike honour killing, too, which invariably involves males killing females, about 50% of IPV is “assortative” â€" cases where damaged like seeks like â€" and the partners bilaterally provoke each other.

As NP Editor says:
by SargeDude52 Jul 29 2009 4:58 PM Of the seven honour killings mentioned in this paper, three were committed by Muslims, three by Hindus and one by a Sikh. How did this issue become all about Muslims? Severe mistreatment of women seems to be an issue throughout south and centrla Asia, so focusing on a single religion is unlikely to be helpful in curbing the violence.

In addition to this, NP Editor states:
Michael - you still don't get it do you. Islam created Sharia Law in which imams hold court and interpret the Koran to suit the flavour of their particular cultural milieu. So in some countries it is proposed and acted upon that women can and are stoned to death, hung, gang raped mutilated, and otherwise cast aside. That is a religious/cultural practice imported into Canada by these brain washed c retins.  There is indeed no honour in this by our standards but therein lies our politically corrected lense through which we filter these atrocities. They think it is honourable because that is what they have learned within their culture. To say it is just murder is to not understand its source and if we do not know the source we cannot resolve the problem. Anything less is appeasement.

Lucas brings a word of caution:
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Neo Conservative points out another thing aside from that:
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Despite the previous arguments, PhantomObserver has many reasons to think otherwise:
Do I find his death tragic? For his community, I should say so; he could have developed into a well-spoken and respected elder. But Donald Marshall s place in Canadian legal history is pretty much assured. I just wonder how many of us will remember to pay attention.

Having that in mind, Neo Conservative wonders:
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Despite the previous arguments, NP Editor has many reasons to think otherwise:
by Michael Pilgrim Jul 29 2009 9:36 AM “In reality, for a Western man to kill a girl or woman under his protection for any “reason” at all â€" let alone her sexual choices â€" runs so counter to our own chivalric tradition of honour (vestigial as it is), that such rare acts are always linked to psychological derangement.”

Similarly, NP Editor adds:
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Meanwhile, NP Editor came up with this idea:
I would wager the reason for that is that the researchers re-jigged the definition of IPV to include things like "emotional abuse" or milder forms of vi olence (e.g. throwing things, slapping).  At the life-threatening or bone-breaking level of violence, it's still overwhelmingly male on female.

Neo Conservative comes with the facts:
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For this purpose, NP Editor suggests:
This is a cultural practice imported to Canada. What value is there in denying it? by Michael Pilgrim Jul 29 2009 11:49 AM

NP Editor thinks that the problem is:
by arbyburns Jul 29 2009 2:18 PM sorry Michael, I guess I wasn't clear:I was referring to *Canadian* honour killings committed by Sikhs or Christians, or in fact, any other religion than Muslim.

Neo Conservative remembers that:
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In response, PhantomObserver claims:
I wonder how many of us bothered to look at the Hickman Commission report on Marshall s prosecution (you can find it here on the Nova Scotia government website, by the way). You may find it somewhat refreshing for a government report, in that it s not afraid to name names and assign blame. You might also be interested in seeing some of its recommendations; they relate in part to the sort of discrimination that human rights commissions are supposed to deal with, before they got infected by the political correctness bug.

Neo Conservative gives a bit of an idea about it:
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NP Editor gives a bit of an idea about it:
As I said recently in regard to female genital mutilation, this is not a "liberal vs. conservative" issue here. Across the political spectrum, Canadians stand against the abuse and murder of anyone. To suggest otherwise, and to try to make this an ideological wedge issue, is manipulative and frankly dispicable.

For this purpose, NP Editor suggests:
______________________________This is a matter of faith in the Koran and as preached by Imams. In the same vain Roman Catholics believe they are the only true church, and the only way to heaven.

Similarly, NP Editor adds:
Male-female relations are culturally determined. In reality, for a Western man to kill a girl or woman under his protection for any “reason” at all â€" let alone her sexual choices â€" runs so counter to our own chivalric tradition of honour (vestigial as it is), that such rare acts are always linked to psychological derangement. To misrepresent the impulse to murder one’s wife or daughters as a generically male characteristic is a misandric slander, and every bit as contemptible as racism.

NP Editor can't forget that:
When did I say I disagreed with it?  My point that this supposedly `generalizing for the group' that excused honour homicide is not practiced by feminists when referring to `white males.'

In other words, NP Editor puts it this way:
by AKTor Jul 29 2009 2:11 PM "But this isn't the case with those who are known as `anti-violence activists'..."

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Still being unsure, PhantomObserver asks:
I wonder how many of us bothered to look at the Hickman Commission report on Marshall s prosecution (you can find it here on the Nova Scotia government website, by the way). You may find it somewhat refreshing for a government report, in that it s not afraid to name names and assign blame. You might also be interested in seeing some of its recommendations; they relate in part to the sort of discrimination that human rights commissions are supposed to deal with, before they got infected by the political correctness bug.

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NP Editor objects:
by Mel from Calgary Jul 29 2009 8:11 AM The role of women in these cultures is not much different from the roles the fundamentalist christians would like women to have here.  It just hasn't degenerated to honour killings.

In addition to this, NP Editor states:
The current DV industry does not provide the right kind of help as it condones female violence or completely ignores it. See reference to Duluth Wheel above!

NP Editor points out another thing aside from that:
No, they are not.  The femicide committed by Muslims - and yes, Michael Pilgrim, there are Xian, Sikh, Hindu etc., no one is saying that they are not - honour killings are of a class apart from the murders of women committed by men in secular, Western societies.  

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Thinking that's not all, NP Editor adds:
In my time here, I cannot recall one submission by Ms. Kay - or one comment by any of her fans - that recognizes anything positive about Muslim culture or people. All I see are postings that effectively demonize an entire culture. Because of this lack of balance - and not because of any personal tendency to "uncritical liberal support for PC multiculturalism" - I have my doubts about the sincerity of Ms. Kay around this issue.

NP Editor imagines that:
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Neo Conservative brings a word of caution:
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lostcauser brings more details:
The information concerning Karla Homolka s crimes is available, and you can find it the same way I did. But what I found was not the story that continues to be bandied about; what I found was a story about the crime Karla committed without Paul Bernardo, without his direction or his compliance, or even his knowledge. The Crown, who incidentally also ordered the publication and media blackouts on Homolka s trial , went out of its way to ensure there was this understanding: Paul Bernardo is clearly guilty, of all of it. And it would seem that way, once you omit niggling little details such as police reports taken at the time an incident occurred. Much safer bet, it seems, to ride on the testimony of unrepentant, pleas-bargaining ex-wives.

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NP Editor does a quick recap:
I'm sorry, Michael, can you identify a murder in recent times that was committed by Hindus, Sikhs or Xians for that matter.

NP Editor has another idea:
This week, as one example, a woman killed her 3.5 month old child by stabbing, dismembered him and ate his brain. You can read about it here. victimfeministcentral.blogspot.com/.../police-woman-accused-of-killing-newborn.html  Just think if this had happened in a late term abortion clinic a month earlier it would have not got any notice. The baby's brain would have been sucked out by a vacuum instead of by her mother.

But NP Editor has a different opinion:
by Michael Pilgrim Jul 29 2009 1:23 PM Arby . . .Not sure what you're reading. Nowhere here have I offered support for, let alone tried to explain, any kind of killing of anyone by anyone. Nor do I condone or offer comfort to any person or group that believes in or practises murder as a matter of faith, culture or political policy.

NP Editor is not really sure about that:
Again, this apologism for honour killing simply looks poor on you. by Anonymous66 Jul 29 2009 2:30 PM MikeMurphy, you do know what "schizophrenia" means, right?  Most violent crime, whether it's male on female or female on male, is just because the perpetrator is a bad person.   The schizophrenic mother cutting her baby into pieces and eats him, on the other hand, did it because she has a brain illness that rendered her mentally incapable of responsibility for her actions.  No, I'm not saying that makes it ok and they should pat her on the back and let her out, but I think it's pretty obvious that there's a big difference between psychotic and evil.

NP Editor comes with a new idea:
Where's your evidence that the wider community sanctions these acts?  See the following:- www.globalquebec.com/.../story.html

Neo Conservative remembers that:
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lostcauser brings more details:
***Determining the lengths to which a government needs go to protect its good people from its evil ones is a thankless enough task, and when the prospect before the court is of two principle perpetrators of a crime, how does a law-enforcing governing-body go about choosing which criminal to favor? In the plea-bargaining process, the better liar must be the odds-on favorite, and while I believe she did her best, one of the many things still bothering people about the Deal with the Devil, as Homolka s plea bargain arrangement came to be known, is that Karla wasn t a very good liar. Bothersome, too, is that the governing-law-enforcing body didn t seem much concerned about how obvious a lie she was telling. According to the Crown, the point which necessitated the Deal with the Devil was putting Paul Bernardo in prison. And making sure he stayed there for a good long time.

lostcauser does a quick recap:
***Determining the lengths to which a government needs go to protect its good people from its evil ones is a thankless enough task, and when the prospect before the court is of two principle perpetrators of a crime, how does a law-enforcing governing-body go about choosing which criminal to favor? In the plea-bargaining process, the better liar must be the odds-on favorite, and while I believe she did her best, one of the many things still bothering people about the Deal with the Devil, as Homolka s plea bargain arrangement came to be known, is that Karla wasn t a very good liar. Bother some, too, is that the governing-law-enforcing body didn t seem much concerned about how obvious a lie she was telling. According to the Crown, the point which necessitated the Deal with the Devil was putting Paul Bernardo in prison. And making sure he stayed there for a good long time.

Having that in mind, PhantomObserver wonders:
I wonder how many of us bothered to look at the Hickman Commission report on Marshall s prosecution (you can find it here on the Nova Scotia government website, by the way). You may find it somewhat refreshing for a government report, in that it s not afraid to name names and assign blame. You might also be interested in seeing some of its recommendations; they relate in part to the sort of discrimination that human rights commissions are supposed to deal with, before they got infected by the political correctness bug.

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